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MEETING OF THE INTEGRAL CROSSFIRE PRACTICE GROUP
Ryan Nakade facilitates debates and conversations on topics of interest.
On Racism
MEETING OF THE INTEGRAL CROSSFIRE PRACTICE GROUP
Ryan Nakade facilitates debates and conversations on topics of interest.
Are people like Obama, Jordan Peterson or Sam Harris “integral”?
MEETING OF THE INTEGRAL CROSSFIRE PRACTICE GROUP
Ryan Nakade facilitates debates and conversations on topics of interest.
Is GREEN a level of development?
MEETING OF THE INTEGRAL CROSSFIRE PRACTICE GROUP
Ryan Nakade facilitates debates and conversations on topics of interest.
WHAT IS NYOUR BIGGEST CRITICISM OF INTEGRAL?
MEETING OF THE INTEGRAL CROSSFIRE PRACTICE GROUP
Ryan Nakade facilitates debates and conversations on topics of interest.
Third debate (in the group)
WHAT IS NYOUR BIGGEST CRITICISM OF INTEGRAL?
TIME STAMPS:
00:00 – ground rules
8:07 – disagreement with concept of subtle and causal body
9:00 – shadow of Integral: Arrogance
10:20 – Integralists who are not Integral, too much headiness, Wilber’s books too long and repetitive, bias for Buddhism, value judgements that higher development is better,
12:40 – Integral community is head only, excludes heart and body, not tending to the animal parts of us,
16:40 – lazy definitions, how is all the body talk not just Green? lack of debate, ass kissing Ken Wilber, abuse in the Integral community,
19:05 – overemphasis on headiness – spatial/rational thinking,
22:00 – arrogance in IT,
25:50 – what kind of intellect are we talking about? certain structure of consciousness is dominating.
29:10 – issue with mental excluding body and heart,
30:20 – academic lecture as performance art, people at Amber feeling attacked, alienating lower stages,
33:00 – “larger” more neutral than higher/lower, is there a shadow – are people motivated by a sense of not being enough or wanting to be right? could be motivated by a psychological wounding.
34:50 – Integral is reintegrating Orange and shadows,
35:13 – lower stages still live within us,
37:27 – Integral as anti-Green sensitivity avoidance, understanding anti-hierarchy,
42:45 – bias towards higher-education, depicting Integral development in an enneagram model,
44:25 – if we do away with hierarchy, do we destroy Integral? Dominator vs. growth hierarchy, changing metaphor of structure stages where people don’t value rank,
50:00 – look at old model and design new metaphors, Gebser doesn’t see structures as developmental, non-linear emergence, going back to go forward,
53:45 – advocating for hierarchy, holding horizontal and vertical growth, how to not lose all of these distinctions?
55:40 – content vs. presentation of theory,
56:50 – keep structure, how to include IT in a larger unity,
59:00- questioning linearity of development, do entire groups of people go through developmental stages? Integral hasn’t integrated postmodern deconstruction of linearity,
1:03:38 – we drop the views of the structures but not the structure itself, can we really thoroughly access the lower stages? mental still taking priority over the lower stages,
1:08:20 – Kundalini awakening as metaphor for non-linearity, hard vs soft data,
1:12:00 – closing statements, we are still coming from all the stages, lower levels may be bigger than higher, are we talking about Green here? Who are we presenting Integral to? How to measure someone’s stage?
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SECOND MEETING OF THE INTEGRAL CROSSFIRE PRACTICE GROUP
Ryan Nakade facilitates 1:1 debates and conversations on topics of interest.
Second debate
GENDER WAR
Charles Marxer, Paul Fryer, Heidi Hornlein
Crossfire Gender:
5:15 – mens rights, Warren Farrell, need to talk of both sides, good and bad sides of mens rights groups, mens suffering,
14:15 – backlash against feminism, women and masculinity, respect,
19:30 – women fight for equal pay, speaking up and competition, empowerment, unions,
25:00 – personal responsibility, workplace deaths, women doing similar jobs to men,
32:55 – both sides of sexual assault allegations, nuanced analysis, different kinds of power,
39:50 – dressing provocatively,
46:20 – power in relationships, manipulative,
51:07 – oppression throughout history – women as sheep,
1:00:14 – advocating for both male and female positions, Warren Farrell, lack of father figures, boy crises,
1:06:40 – what does a woman role model like? women functioning in a mans world,
1:10:23 – Reinventing organizations, Carol Gilligan, non-hierarchy, collaboration,
1:13:00 – male and female stereotypes,
1:15:20 – men care in a different way, women compete in a different way,
1:22:40 – recap and closing check out – personal responsibility for everyone, looking at both sides, different kinds of power, look at strengths of both,
1:29:20 – gender roles vs. gender qualities,
FIRST MEETING OF THE INTEGRAL CROSSFIRE PRACTICE GROUP
Ryan Nakade facilitates 1:1 debates on topics of interest. Starting here with
DOES FREE WILL EXIST?
Damiano Ramazotti and Charles Marxer
Other participants ask questions and contribute with their own positions and with Meta-perspective on the debate itself
AFTER THE MEETING OF THE INTEGRAL CROSSFIRE PRACTICE GROUP
Finding a decision on how these crossfire talks can evolve, how they can/should be structure, what agreements do we need to make etc. A demonstration of a peer decision making process and of shared leadership.