Women, Men, Culture or Biology? and more

Women Matter Januar 2018

00:00 Introductions of the participants

4:25 Luna talk about last year: children facilitation work, how she entered into that area which brought her to South-East Asia

10:30 Questions to Luna around the children’s work and the “17 global challenges”

12:00 Anna as a child therapist jumps in. Gary Davis: “world citizenship”. Project for children.

13:40 A life Long Learner: “that should be taught in schools!”

15:00 Welcoming Gertraud.

16:30 Anna about education: children learn things which doesn’t empower and benefit them. Grandson is home educated. Self-directd education. When children chose what they want to learn, they learn better and more quickly. Compulsory education is negative.

19:00 Heidi: Schools exist only little more than 100 years, and still none in some parts of the world. Different skills need to be taught like listening, seeing etc.

20:27 Gertraud: School: How to know how to learn, go along with people, take on responsibility etc. but not so much knowledge. Being able to DEAL with the knowledge, discernment etc. Her book about appreciation for leaders in business is bought by many teachers who use the tools for appreciation.

23:00 Tammy: The 17 principles (development goals) we need to address as a global community. Teaching kids how to think and how to learn.

25:10 Luna: Unpacking her own “little child” to continue to grow. An ongoing journey,

26:02 Monia: Curiosity as greatest blessing in life. Talking to women nourishes her.the difference:  Listening,  not push and manipulate, not want a certain goal (male feature), female part wants to BE and appreciate BEING. Speaking from a different generation viewpoint.

Unifying male/female might not be a good development. Polarity between the sexes is very important.

29:27 Anna. Women always had to struggle that little bit harder to make ourselves heard. Which pulls us together. Women tend to work on themselves more easily/naturally. We are interested/curious also about ourselves and becoming who we really are. Femine Power has been missing in the world: we know that we are needed.

31:55 Heidi: Women are more curious about the inside, while men outside. Talks about our previous conversation “Men, women and Power”. What directs our interests/passions?

33:12 Monia: what is FEMININE POWER

33:40 Take responsability for ourselves and stand up for yourself and get out of victim role

34:35 Anna: Every woman is different. Make distinction between men and women doesn’t work for her. Patriarchy is ruling the world, something is missing: caring, not saying: only women care, that’s why it is tricky. Maybe because our biology or because being forced to stay at home: the history has made us more concerned with people

36:52 Heidi: addition to Feminine Power: be comfortable with uncertainty and go towardss goals with feedback loop and course corrections.

39:00 Anna brings up again the cultural determinism. What we think is feminine or masculine comes from the traditions of the cultures. If men and women were totally free without any pressure, we don’t really know what it would be like: the most important thing is the freedom to be what we WANT to be.

39:00 Tammy is uncomfortable with the gender binary. Shares an insight of herself: Feeled different when work came from woman or men: lessening of woman inside herself although she doesn’t identify with these norms in heart or mind. Social structure is a huge part of who we are. Lays a mask over we might think. She challenges her assumptions. We have the power to change what we believe. Test our assumptions and perceptions. Blaming oneself – embedded in a world which is not working as it should.

42:13 Monia to Tammy: we unite the male and female approach: male decisiveness and ying/yang flow with appreciation

43:05 Gertraud: Naiobe Way (?) did research on boys: Change in puberty when they stop being “feminine” and become “male” which results in loneliness etc. They are born with the same loving care for others.

45:58 Heidi: humans are about fighting. Boys wouldn’t be useful soldiers if too sensitive. Schools were meant to create obedient young people, first boys, later also girls

47:45 Luna: How do you feel in your own being. Biological roles were different, men protect the family and to hunt. Boys and girls are treated differently as babies. Men’s stress goes up with eye contact. Eric ? talks about bush people in Africa and eye contact which is offensive “to be eaten”. Now we are save of the moment to moment danger, but still the biology. Today: do I feel more masculine or feminine? What do I wnat/need to express. Feminine Power = feeling empowered with my natural proclivity of being a nurturer.

52:12 Tammy: being able to have moments of quiet to feel what needs to be expressed next. Feminine principle is wholeness, the bod of knowing, connected together, A lot of information to process! Take it all in and hold better without carrying too much. It is a lot to take in in the world of multiple crisis and find ways to not be overwhelmed.

55:00 heidi acknowledges Gina in the comment stream and reads her comment. About the difference in brain development in males and females.

55:38 Monia to Tammy: She switched the word “power” to “facilities”

56:00 Tammy responds: she works on her facilities, “good catch”

56:50 gertraud answers to Gina: We are different in our hormone system and it is not right to through out everything with CULTURE. It might be EVOLUTIONARY and not necessarily culture when men needed to protect women etc. Important to not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Honor the differences. A different energy when men come together.

59:25 Tammy thanks Monia: help each other to see things in a broader view. She works on the places in herself which don’t feel fully empowered. Speaker holds power which is supported by the listeners. Support each other to make visible where we are limiting ourselves and see things differently. Tammy thanks Monia for her feedback. A dedicated learner on multiple levels.

1:02:15 Monia. Thank you. Brain of women can swithch quicker. While we communicte we can be aware of the whole. Each of us has so interesting stories which we never come to share. Will we get to know each other better, would that change the group?

1:04:09 Luna: imagining ancient times when we would sit together and share. She would love to know us more fully.

1:05 Gertraud: Appreciates that we are all together at the start of the year. Tells about her visit at her daughter who has a 4-month old son. She says she can feel the difference. He came out and was a BOY, she didn’t expect that, the difference of male/female babies. Wishes us a year full of miracles!

1:07:10 what are miracles?

1:07:50 Anna: was touched that there was a listener. It feels lovely to feel connected with a wider group. She feels very nourished with the conversation.

1:08:41 Heidi: we are creating something together. Appreciation to be able to come together in 5 countries. Invitation to Paradiso Integrale.  We have a lot to talk