Women Matters Energy and Mindfulness

### SummaryThe video is about a virtual meeting of a group of women who share personal experiences, lifestyles, and, above all, mindfulness. The discussion covers different perspectives on the concept of mindfulness and how it can be implemented in daily life. The participants share their individual experiences and methods of practicing mindfulness and reflect on emotions, body awareness, and the influence of the environment on the mind. Various techniques for calming the mind and self-care are developed, including breathing exercises, meditation, and creative forms of expression such as dance and music. The participants support each other and emphasize the importance of community and mindfulness in life.### Highlights- 🌅 **Personal Experiences:** Participants share their individual recent experiences, such as weddings, travels, and personal challenges.- 🌊 **Defining Mindfulness:** There is a discussion on mindfulness, gathering different perspectives and approaches to defining the term.- 🎶 **Influence of Music:** Music is highlighted as a powerful method for calming the mind and promoting well-being, as it has a direct impact on mood.- 🌿 **Body and Mind:** The connection between body and mind is addressed, with participants discussing how physical activities can promote mental well-being.- 🧠 **Conscious Breathing:** Breathing exercises are highlighted as an effective method for calming the mind and managing stress.- 💬 **Community and Sharing:** The importance of sharing in community is emphasized, as it helps To promote awareness of mindfulness and self-care.- 📖 **Literature and Resources:** Recommendations for books and other resources to promote mindfulness will be shared, which can help participants deepen their practices.### Key Takeaways- 🤝 **Connection through Sharing:** Sharing in the group shows the importance of having a supportive community. Conversations about personal experiences promote mindfulness and well-being, as participants learn from and inspire each other. – 🧘 **Mindfulness as an Active Practice:** Mindfulness is not only viewed theoretically, but participants discuss practical methods to integrate mindfulness into everyday life. Techniques such as conscious breathing and mindful movement help to focus the mind and reduce stress.- 🌍 **Influence of the Environment:** It highlights how strongly the external environment influences our inner world. Changes in the weather, noises, and even other people’s energy can influence our emotions and thoughts.- 🤸‍♀️ **The Power of Movement:** Physical activities, whether walking, dancing, or other forms of movement, are presented as effective ways to promote mindfulness and emotional well-being. Exercise not only helps the body but also has positive effects on the mind.- 📅 **Regular Practices:** The importance of regular mindfulness practice is emphasized. Participants recognize that this is an ongoing journey that requires attention and commitment to remain mindful in the hustle and bustle of everyday life.- 📚 **Education and Self-Care:** The idea that continuous learning about mindfulness and self-care is necessary is supported. The discussion encourages the discovery of books and other resources that can promote personal growth.- ✨ **Self-Acceptance and Humor:** The discussion promotes the idea of ​​accepting oneself and one’s emotions, even when they are uncomfortable. Humor and a lighter perspective can help overcome difficult emotional moments and strengthen mindfulness. Overall, the video offers a deep insight into the multifaceted practice of mindfulness, centered on sharing experiences and personal insights. Participants encourage each other to explore and practice different paths to self-care, emphasizing the value of community and support in their personal development process. It becomes clear that the practice of mindfulness not only improves the individual’s quality of life but can also strengthen interpersonal relationships and create a positive shared experience.

We are in women matters again in May 5th after some time of pause. In the meantime, some of our people are not showing up because they have other other um uh engagements. Yeah. Yeah. And Lorine, she said she is heading to to Europe. Um I’m wondering where she is going. So maybe we can meet because I would love to I mean I met Gina and I met uh Mona but I didn’t meet Han yet and all the others so it would be nice to meet. So as we are here Victoria I didn’t meet either but she is not visible at the moment. Check in Mona doyou want to start? Okay okay okay okay. Um, yeah, I’m still recovering from my grandson’s wedding, which was a terrific affair and it they planned it for one year ahead and it was just unbelievable how many lovely details they created and so but it takes I’m not used to it but I managed and Yeah, that’s about so I’m fine but rather slow in whatever I do and I pass on to Hani. Thank you, Mona. Yeah, I I’m in Cape Town and I just came back from the two-hour walk at the beach. So, it was wonderful uh to be also to have thesunset. It was really lovely and very calming because I’m nursing this hay fever and allergy that I currently have. I call it an allergy because it’s just in my nose. So that was lovely to be outside regardless, you know, just to move through it as well to see what is this all about. And before that, I was um preparing for our monthly possibility wave. So I was in a creative process. So, um, I’m glad to be here and to see you all after Easter and I’m passing to you, Gina. I don’t know if Victoria canspeak right now. Okay. Uh, thanks, Heny. U, so Gina coming from Victoria. Uh, I woke up for a 4:30 sunrise, not on purpose, but it was absolutely gorgeous. The colors this time of year are quite incredible, especially if there are clouds in the sky. It makes it that much more pretty. Um, I’ve had three weeks off school. It’s gone very quickly. Uh back to classes on Wednesday for my third and final semester before doing the thesis next year. Um feeling a bit of calm because we had a a good outcome of ourCanadian election. Very pleased with uh Mark Carney uh and um also pleased by the amount of uh people who came out and voted. So there was a lot of passion around this election, but I’m feeling a lot more confident than I did uh leading up to the election. So, all good with that. And I’ve been actually spending some time in my garden, which is has been kind of rare, but it’s good to be back to the garden and getting all dirty and everything. So, that’s it. And I’ll pass to you, Victoria, if you’re able tospeak, but if not, then maybe Heidi, let’s see if she’s speaking. She’s in the car. So, maybe I I check in. And Victoria, when you are home on your computer, you can come in. Uh yeah, you remind me of garden. I did yesterday the last plants into the garden and today it rained and rained and rained. So it is really good that I managed to do it. I planted tomatoes and cucumbers and everything. But also with all the rain, the grass is so high. It’s higher than me. So I’m waiting for people to to cut it,you know. So because it’s really amazing. I had a bit turbulent um last let’s say four weeks with people here with a dog ill and things like that. So I’m now alone again and I’m trying to recover and find myself back into my normal life let’s say. So uh we were talking about what to talk about uh today. So, the ways of the mind or what did you say Mona? What was your suggestion? Um, well, as I put it in the chat, David Mitch’s book, Mindfulness is better than chocolate and I, of course, I’m a chocolate addict. I like chocolate.So, I would say chocolate is just fine too. So, but mindfulness. So how to relate to your own mind and he in this book he uh gives you a stepby-step meditation how to meditate on your mind and I found that very interesting and I was wondering uh how we relate to our mind as such I mean I you just take it for granted but on the other hand it’s not really what we think it is and that I found quite fascinating. So I I really can recommend this book. It’s good. That sounds interesting. My first question is mindfulness. Everybody saysmindfulness. What exactly is that? Do you have an idea? Shall we collect our definitions of mindfulness? I heard a I had a um an amazing man um who gave a opposite that tried to explain to the average person in the street by using the opposite and he said mindlessness versus mindfulness because if mindfulness can be will also for some people mean but your mind is full of stuff which is actually mindfulness is not really about but you you explained it so beautifully of they’re like the opposite ofmindlessness. So you’re present. You’re able to be fully present to whatever is emerging. That’s good because I wasn’t aware that mindfulness might be even the mindful of stuff. So good. Thank you. Gina, what do you think? I think it’s when um much like H’s uh view, it’s it’s when you’re in control of your mind and you’ve calmed it as opposed to just let it run free cuz running free is sometimes it’s just confusing. And so it’s like calming for me. It’s calming. I just noted that Victoria is has her microphone on so maybe she couldalso contribute. Yeah, but you can and we we ask her. Yeah. Well, for me, mindfulness is to be aware what I’m doing, uh how I’m doing it, how my body feels, um and uh what I’m thinking. So to be in control of your thoughts and not let you let them carry you away and of course I find it particularly interesting when going to sleep and I noticed that some thoughts still pop up and but it’s the nature of the mind to think and so we shouldn’t suppress our thoughts but we should just should be aware of them.uh why I’m thinking this uh is not really really important just be aware that there is a thought uh but not cling to it so just let it pass um there is this beautiful oh is coming that’s nice there is the Hi first continue and then we go over to her uh There is um this beautiful uh metaphor of the mind being like the sky, blue sky, brilliant, and that the thoughts just pass by like clouds. And sometimes it’s rainy weather and they stay a longer time, but then they continue. So to identify your mindwith the clear blue sky is yeah it’s a very comforting uh picture. And before I come over to Beatatric I I add what I thought that mindfulness is more or less what you say uh Mona uh be aware as much of possible what is going on inside of me and outside of me. Naturally you can’t do it uh completely but as much as possible we are talking about uh uh how is your mind how it is working and what uh as a definition what do you understand of mindfulness that was the beginning do you want to check in and maybe say something out of yourperspective hi um sorry I’m late I needed to make coffee um uh it’s been a a while. Um, I’m here. I’m back in Portland. I was in New Orleans for almost 3 weeks. Got back 2 days ago and it was it’s probably one of my favorite trips I’ve ever taken. Um, I loved it so much. I I want to move there. The only reason I think that I don’t think I can do it is the humidity. Um it’s and it’s this is in April so April and May so it’s already very very hot and humid and that’s very hard hard for me. Um, my mind gets very heavyum when I’m in the humid weather, but uh there’s so much music everywhere, all the time, all hours of the night, day and night, every street. Um, even this music on the street is amazing. And then every single bar and restaurant has live music. Um, it’s all excellent quality. Um, there wasn’t any bad music of any kind or amateur. I mean, or even if it was amateur, it was so it was amazing. Um, there’s a lot of visual artists and crafters there and they’re they have their things at markets and everyone isincredibly friendly. Everyone says hello to you, which reminds me of Austria when you, you know, take a hike and um I don’t know if it’s still true, but I remember, you know, walking around. Um, so it’s a I don’t and it was really lovely. Um, and and they genuinely want to say hello to you and get to know you. It’s not fake or politeness. It’s really just people being people enjoying other people. Um, so anyway, and the food. Um, music, nice people, good food. Uh, who can ask for anything more? Um,I’m doing well. Uh, I mean, I just got back and I don’t go to work back to work for another couple of weeks, so I’m settling back in and taking care of house things and catching up. Um, and getting perspective on Portland cuz when you travel, I don’t know, a nice thing about traveling is coming back and having new appreciation for where you live. um of you know the air here is so fresh and everything’s so green and it’s there’s a lot of things here that are different. Um but I definitely miss it.Um mindfulness I don’t know. Um, yeah. I think I mean what you said Heidi about being really aware of everything that your body is, what everything you’re doing, all of your senses, I think, and not in an overwhelming way, but kind of in a just a, oh, my hands are touching the table right now and my feet are touching the floor and I see the sunshine outside and etc. and being present to your current moment with all of your senses I would say would be my definition of it. Thank you. Victoria, are you home? Canyou chime in? Otherwise, we continue with a how is your mind? You wrote in the chat in transit. Oh, okay. So, um how you think your mind is operating? Are you uh comfortable with its weight or do you want to change that? I mean meditation I think was invented more or less to get influence on the mind. So if you want to have influence, you want to change something probably. So I give it over to you. And how can we change our mind or influence our mind? There are many many many ways with which are you familiar.Well, uh, the illusion of the self also comes in here because and I can agree with that that there is a stream of consciousness going more than just the brain and uh the inside and the outside are identical. So to really accept that uh can you say more about inside and outside identical? I think not everybody would understand that. Well um let’s put it this way. uh we are creating our view of the world and of course that’s inside of us and but it’s reflected outside and if I think of the politics that are now happening inAustria so I’m not too pleased with myself if this is but on the other hand it doesn’t really affect me anymore I take I recognize there’s this is what happens but it doesn’t upset me. My husband is much more upset about it and I’m trying to um show him how to manage his mind, but uh he’s not quite ready yet. But soon soon we’ll get to that. By the way, New Orleans is one of my favorite towns of of the US. It’s just it was Oh, I have such fantastic memories of not just the food also the music. Yeah, lots of music. And we saw awe saw um a burial and it was so joyful. People just playing and and dancing and Yeah. So that’s the real way to go. If you have to go, go to New. Yeah. And I was thinking about music is changing your mind if you allow it or if you whatever music you choose your mind is following. Well, as we all know, me and like to walt. So, maybe it’s our approach to music apart from Mahala and uh Bach, of course, that’s a different kind, but we really enjoy all things through life. I pass on to whoever feels inspired. And Ithink she’s unmuted. Yes, thank you. Yes, you remind me Mona of being our awareness being in the body close to us with mindfulness. So music, dance, movement brings us back to the brings our awareness back to the body and to the inner shelf where otherwise it’s all over. It could be all over the place outside with what’s happening in the world. So I love what you said Beatric as well and you Mona about the joy of the movement and you hide about the music definitely and I think of myself when I want to calm my ownmind. I also love music but movement specifically as well dancing and I used to dance outside of my body. I don’t know if it makes sense. I started dancing when I was very little but I used to my awareness was always outside of my body and then I started to do free flow dancing and suddenly I experienced that movement inside and then the effect on my mind but actually body mind heart connection that was amazing and you remind me of that now. Thank you. And my daughter she when she gets very anxious very quickly and with her musichelps her also to become mindful of what’s happening inside of her. Um different types it’s not specific type but also movement swimming and things like that. Yeah, I’m was going to I was going to say something like that too that um I’ve been thinking a lot about you know body versus mind and and and where the inter interconnection and the nervous system as being I don’t know I’ve been more attuned to my nervous system recently. I’ve been thinking a lot more about that and and how to calm the nervous system thenthat calms everything else. Um, and I think breath is a big big part of that. Um, and it’s amazing how often I forget to really breathe. I mean, obviously we’re breathing because I’m alive, but um the the power of just just a single deep breath and things can feel better or feel less urgent or subtle. So, I wanted to bring that up. and to say that I I mean I had a lot of moments of anxiety in New Orleans and I think looking back every time it was because I was too hot or a little bit hungry or something you know thatthe how how much our mind and our emotional state of being is affected just by the state of our body too. If your if your body bodily needs are not being met, at least for me, it’s it becomes very stark very quickly and suddenly everything seems emotionally intense and as soon as I take care of my body, it’s better. Yeah. I would like to add another thing. For me, it’s very important the outside atmosphere. Let’s say when when it’s raining like u before I feel like and I get all sorts of let’s saynegative thinking and as soon as the sun is out it seems everything seems different you know and then and I get more positive thoughts and more uh confidence in life and everything so it’s not only inside that our mind and body is interacting but we are interacting also with what comes from outside. And as for calming my nervous system, when I’m really, let’s say, down, I’m very easily going into a depressive mood when something is not working out. I normally use Bach music, you know, and I try tofeel it in my body and I can feel it in my body, all the movements up and down and the different instruments and that makes a different difference when I succeed to do it. Sometimes there’s no way to feel it inside then it’s only a hearing thing with the ears which is much poorer let’s say as an experience but the whole body music experience is that’s for me the way more than sitting in meditation because then my mind goes somewhere everywhere let’s say so far for me so I think kaid touch music is um it’sthe same thing. If if there’s too much silence, silence lets maybe too much in for me. And so at least if it’s music, you just follow each note and then apparently our mind starts going into the same sort of rhythm and so we connect with the music and which is why you don’t want to wear I don’t know happens to people play hard rock but calming music is it it actually apparently we we want to move to it. we it’s natural our brain calms down. So I just find music is an easier way to calm down because you can just concentrate onthe notes and let it flow flow with the music versus um try too hard to keep the clouds away. Dina now you say that as well what comes up is um look at music festivals all the differences which is created by the mind. It’s not you know that we can analyze and the likes, but people just come come together in harmony. They’re all different and they dance and they sing. Even if they just sit watching a show, there’s unity there. And the music creates that unity. And for me, that’s a level of mindfulness of we are not really thatdifferent. You know, we we our differences is something that we can celebrate. But then we come together and we move as one so to speak strangers. It’s just magical. So music and dance in groups creates connection and uh yeah collective agent for for reuniting people. Maybe also there is a would be a potential to create peace between people. I think we need that at the moment a little bit. I’m wondering if we since shi you mentioned that your mind starts roaming. So what kind of tools do you use toum stop your mind from doing that? So really to control your mind. uh in my uh breathing helps. So breathing is just the essential of how to control or to guide your mind as uh mentioned and yeah and for me it’s also being aware when I’m carried away by a thought and then I I just disidentify with the thought. So I am more than my thoughts for example this old saying and Heidi what do you do? Yeah first I wanted to say this is again a a task of the mind when you have to say this I’m have thoughts and I’mnot my thoughts and I have the suspicion that also that is thought but at the end you would like not to have so I’m bit doubtful. Um I do a body scan. I try to really feel from the toes to up and then I notice when I arrive at the knees and I went away again. So I come down again, take the first toe, the second toe and so on. And sometimes I succeed to get the whole thing and then then normally I’m fine. But are you using the other people? Well, I’m also using breathing and scanning the body. But what I usually uhespecially when I work with other people to get them out of their minds is to make them close their eyes so that they’re not distracted by the outside world and then count backwards in their native language from 50 to zero. So they unwind the mind and they becomes it be they become stiller and still towards the zero you know towards the end and then anything is possible because you can just then go into silence or you can you can activate the mind. You could do something with the mind that’s more focused and more umyeah more purposeful but it really unwinds the mind. And the other thing is also spinning physically spinning where you are al yeah also unwind your mind and your whole body body mind heart connection and that’s really powerful as well. So everything that was entangling you whether it’s internal or external then you know dissolves so to speak. That’s the Sufi dance. No that’s spinning around. That’s amazing because the world is moving around you and you are the center more or less. Gina, you wanted to say something.I was just going to say I use the numbers too and what I the the discipline I use is I don’t count down although I think that’s a really good idea is I count up and I and I count if I count if I let another thought in other than the count I start the count again. So I’m like, okay, how far can you get? So you go one and you and if something shows up back to one and it’s it’s basically saying I am going to manage this and you’re not managing me and then I can get there and I I sometimes I I don’t get it takes severaltries to get past 10, but I’m willing to do it and then just keep achieving it. But I don’t expect to get to 100 without a stray thought. I just don’t set that expectation. I just like eventually you will cal you will calm and usually I would do that. I do sometimes the same thing with just the breath just the breath in and just talk to myself. Breathe in, breathe out. Just the just the sort like it’s sort of like music in its own way because it’s a rhythm. It’s steady and it just goes and eventuallyyou have a calmness about it. Yeah. And I think the other thing is that one of the things that was really always been very challenging for me is rumination and just to be able to when a ruminating thought shows up is say okay you’re on you’re by cloud like you Monia let the let that go. There’s no point. Nothing’s nothing’s changing by repeating something that is bothering you. So just let it go. And then I think um do you remember all the times you thought something was so important and you let it bother you? And is do youeven remember what those things were? Do they matter anymore? And if that’s not working, I say okay um you’re a speck in the universe. You’re spinning around a a sun and this isn’t going to make any difference a week from now, 3 weeks from now, or maybe ever. So just let the thought go. It’s just a thought. It’s not an action. Just a thought. Let it go. But uh even though I sometimes wake up at 4:30 in the morning uh and if I want to sleep as opposed to enjoying a beautiful sunset or sunrise um I I useall these tricks to see which ones are working. Yeah, I found it particularly uh strike although it struck me as uh true that meteorites whatever we ever thought and whatever important thoughts they were and fantastic thoughts they’re all gone. They’re all gone. So it’s just what is here now. Right. Right. And here. So and that’s sort of Yeah. And if I think back my long life, uh there’s quite a lot of thoughts left behind. Yeah. But according to some theories, the thoughts are not gone. They areregistered in the accashic field. So something importance they have. So we better take care for the thoughts. Yeah. I don’t believe they actually truly disappear. I just think that they are filed for when you need them. And if you need them, you can bring them back. But you don’t need to bring back something you don’t need. Bring choose what you bring back. Choose the choose the thing that makes you happy versus the thing that makes you frustrated. We’re not perfect. We’ve all made mistakes. Yeah, other version iswhat comes back might be important at the moment because often you you try to get back a thought and it doesn’t come you know so we don’t really have the uh accurate choice for for having the thoughts in the mind we want to have Beatric what is your opinion you have a half aged of all of us so I’m wondering what in your generation is going on oh you always ask me that. I feel I feel so badly equipped to represent my generation because I often don’t identify with my generation. Um well, that’s why probably why I’mhere. Um I find that writing helps. Um, and sometimes, I mean, I often have anxiety or thoughts or things about something I need to do or something I forgot to do or something. And I’m I’m trying to get better at this. I’m not not there yet. But sometimes I just need to do it when I think of it. Like sometimes the easiest way to let go of the thing is to just do it or to write it down or to to do something with the thing. So, if I’m if I’m, you know, worrying a lot about, oh, I haven’t sent that email, maybe I justsit down and write the email and do it and get it out of the way. Um, but also just if it’s more emotional stuff, I mean, I found it’s also hard to remind myself to do this, but writing writing is very helpful. And sometimes it kind of clears the cobwebs out of the way and you find your way somewhere else or get to process whatever the the feeling is. Um and then I also do a lot of the other things that have already been mentioned that you know self-t talk. Um the what we talked about at the beginning about you know the sensesgrounding in the moment noticing what you see and hear and all of that. Um and you know and will it be important in 5 days, 5 weeks, 5 months, 5 years, five decades. [Music] Um yeah, the cloud thing does not work for me. I and and just like the the kind of average stereotypical meditation of trying to clear your mind also does not work for me. Um, but movement, breath, sometimes also just kind of shaking my whole body or um or turning. I did this the other day. I was feeling really I was too hot. Um,but I couldn’t solve that and I was feeling kind of grumpy about something and I just decided to become a gremlin and kind of walked around like this cuz that’s how I felt and it helped. So sometimes just becoming whatever the thing is because it becomes ridiculous and funny and I start giggling instead and then I feel better. So laughter I guess. Yeah. I think it’s a good thing to find an outlet for for the otherwise trapped emotions or thoughts and so and transform them in some way. Get it outof your system. Yeah, you described it beautifully. I’ve been to something called five rhythms dancing. I think it’s probably fairly popular. And they tell you which emotions to release with the music so that you do have those quiet moments, the angry moments, the scary moments, or wanting to be really friendly moments. And it was fun. I’ve never heard about that. What is it? It’s basically it’s it’s not terribly choreographed, but the someone plays music and tells you which emotion to dance to. And sometimes you just danceby yourself. Sometimes you just go and you you choose someone and you dance in a similar rhythm with them. And it’s just to release all the emotions. Uh I can look up the the exact emotions, but it’s it’s I do recall. It’s been a long time for me, but just release the emotions. And uh the closest thing I would say is that sometimes you remind me, Henley, walking on the beach. We have a beautiful beach at the end of our street and there’s times when I just want to skip and dance on the beach. Just skip and dance. And I’m like, do Icare what anybody thinks? Actually, no. Because in Victoria West Coast, we’re a little crazy on the West Coast. You can pretty much get away with anything here and nobody will think you’re weird. So I But I just sort of get, you know, the waves are going. It’s beautiful, beautiful water. where we have mountains and then you just sort of think I’ll just go down to the beach and dance and skip and run and play. Yeah. And so whatever’s whatever is in you, I just like just go do it. But you know, you remind me when Iwas in Vancouver many years ago. I was invited by my one friend to join her at it was a type of a sacred dance. It’s not five I know five rhythms also. Um but this was different. There was no instruction and was 3 hours long and you just moved by yourself. It was incredibly calming but also energizing at the same time but you really went in so deep into yourself. And at another stage in Los Angeles, I went with a friend to an experience where you are dancing inside of your bar. You light on the floor. It’s dark and the music isplaying and you’re traveling inside yourself by dancing inside to yourself into all your cells. It was most amazing experience. So you were so aware of what’s going on inside of you or your trillions of cells. I’ll never forget it because your body sort of calibrate to it. But something else I want to mention with the younger generation, my daughter gets with overwhelm, but she does to become mindful is maybe she thinks she didn’t put off the stove or she didn’t lock the door or whatever like obsessive thoughts. Sowhen she leaves the house, she would say, “I I’m locking the door.” Whatever she’s doing, she’s reminding herself. She’s saying it out loud. I’m putting off the stove. I’m locking the door. whatever comes that that those thoughts can’t now create some overwhelm or fear or anxiety and she finds that very to put it in a mindful state as well. I don’t know why this made me think of this, but when you said dancing inside of your body, I was reminded of a I did a um Alexander technique workshop I don’t know last year. Um, but one ofthe exercises we did which was felt kind of fun and whimsical was to to be a little hiker on some surface of your body and to really notice like as if your hand or your thigh or whatever surface you’re choosing was this terrain. and to to to to hike along and feel, oh, there’s here’s the cavern that has the lake and here it’s a little bit more textured and what does that feel like? And it totally shifts the perspective cuz suddenly you’re you’re viewing that part of your body as some other place and and getting this kind ofperspective shift of really the big and the small. And I don’t know, I really enjoyed that. I thought it was very beautiful. And yeah, shifting perspective. I think there’s other ways to do that. But if you can zoom in and zoom out, that’s helpful, too. So, I put the five rhythms um definition in the chat. So, it’s actually a pretty nice. I I remembered it as anger, but they’re right. It wasn’t anger. It was chaos. So, it was frantic. I guess I remember being frantic more than anything. But stcato was fun too. And I what Ifound is um when people went there for the first time, they thought they should just dance as if they were dancing to on a dance floor to a band. And it took some time people to feel free enough to actually change it to the five different aspects. And it wasn’t just Yeah, it was more movement. There was more flow. There was you moved around the room or in stillness you could just lie still. I mean, whatever. Um, but yeah, anyways, it it was a lot of fun and you could do it by yourself. I don’t know how I think if you just orwith a partner be fun. Oshu also also had a um dance like where you if I can remember correctly, you start to shaking for 15 minutes. So you put your alarm clock for 15 minute intervals for an hour and then the first 15 minutes without music you just start shaking your body and at some stage your body begins to shake itself. It’s the same like with five rhythms. You’re not thinking it anymore. You are the body’s just doing it. Then the next 15 minutes is you put on soft music and you just move freely through the room. And thenthe next 15 minutes you sit down comfortably. nothing to do, nowhere to go to, and you just sit. And if thoughts come, you just let them go like with the cloud thing. But at that stage, you say out of your mind, you don’t think anymore. You insert in your body. And in the last 15 minutes, you lie down and you close your eyes and you can fall asleep. It’s okay. But then you are in such a calm state because the body was releasing all the tension supporting the nervous system but you also supportingthe mind. Um but it’s wonderful that when that switch come where you shake your body and the body starts shaking itself. It’s an amazing feeling very it’s very liberating. That’s great that you are able to do that. I I tried it with five minutes and it was so long and I never reached this point of that the body moves itself because I’m not a movement type. So I have to work to move. There are quite interesting uh facts about the five rhythms and it’s it relates to childhood, poverty, uh mature life and death. So, thestillness finally is death and um yeah, I’m I’m sure there will be uh more to be found on YouTube or whatever. Quite interesting. Thank you, Gina, for mentioning it. I also find that the smile meditation like you’re scanning your body. So you start at your toes and then you smile at your toes and you smile at your at your ankles. You go up your b body. You smile at every single part of your body. It’s such an amazing way to wake up in the morning if you’re not a meditation person because it reallyagain the scanning but also just you bring your awareness closer to yourself inwards not so much outwards. And as you smile, it’s almost impossible then to think as well, cuz you’re giggling and you smiling. Oh, my toes. Oh, they that one is funny, but it it just brings some humor into it as well. This is especially true for people like me in the past who have some body parts who they don’t like. And then to be able to smile at them, it’s a a further step of let’s say development or something. For instance, bellies. No.Well, I think I think uh one of the things when I think about body um is the miracle of healing that we have. So even though we might occasionally be unwell or and maybe not recover from all unwwellness, but just the miracle that you can be hurt and you can be healed that like there’s some incredible renewal that happens in every organ and every tissue and just the fact that we have that renewal and we have plicity in our brains too. So it there’s all sorts of wonderful things that are happeningif but just being grateful that that actually exists like that if you broke a bone the bone can heal for the most part. Maybe not as pretty as last time but you know but at least we heal. Yeah. Well, thank you, Annalie, for mentioning smiling at yourself because when I wake up, I do the body flow, still lying down, starting with my feet and then uh the knees and but now I’m going to smile at them when I do it. I Yeah, that would be quite helpful. Mhm. And I’m thinking about we have with the mind also an influence uh and withbreathing an influence on the body I often have sort of uh high uh heartbeat and then when I breathe three four times and slow slow out breath normally it it normalizes. So we are not not totally uh impotent to when I once told that to a heart doctor where to do a checkup they just dismissed it that’s it’s stupid you cannot you know the heart is doing you need to to have medicine maybe and I said I won’t so they just don’t know that you can influence uh your body and not only the heart but probably also other parts butthe heart is more obvious. I don’t know how my liver responds. So, but the heart you can feel immediately. Yeah. Do you remind me now when I was burned in 2022? My face. It it was that moment in er where everything shifted when I realized but I can write, I can speak, it’s okay, you know. But it was like that self responsibility suddenly changed everything. The healing process then was a miracle because of that. But there was something else that came up as well as she was sharing that is yes Do you know this incredible powerof to heal ourselves and as I’m sharing it with you all my cells suddenly starts to vibrate. It’s oh the one that that’s linked to the vibration. This is one that I wanted to share as well is a joy meditation. So when you wake up uh so sort of for 20 minutes or so but you can start with 10 and I learned this from a medical doctor actually who was helping people with arthritis that you start by in your mind say joy and then verbally out loud joy. You continue that for 20 minutes. It has an incredible effect. research haveproven how it helps people with things like chronic diseases like arthritis or any other chronic disease for that matter. It’s amazing. He’s American doctor. I still have his book somewhere. I got it as a gift from a friend in Turkey many years ago because at that time my mother was struggling with arthritis very badly and it works. It really works. So but it also it calms the mind but it the body mind heart system and the nervous system and the immune system it had a big it has a big effect on the immune system aswell and I wanted to add Hani in it was 22 I think we did an interview on your healing journey it was really amazing in short time how how how it healed so who is interested can look up in the wisdomfactory.net net and search for Hani Venuta and the healing journey I think is the title and you can see that I was wondering how you have so many interesting interviews maybe send a list around or how do you promote yourself? I don’t promote myself but I have the website and there you find all the interviews for certain topics forcertain themes. There’s also the women women matters part the German part and the interviews I do also Gina we did an interview lately not lately half a year ago or a year ago or something time passes. Uh, now I do very few interviews. Before I did it with Mark and then it was always in English. Now I’m I don’t feel so comfortable in English anymore because I don’t practice it and I do some in German, but also I’m not I’m not looking for them anymore because it was a project between me and Mark. Now I’m more uh interested inthese group conversations than in uh in promoting interviews and put them in context. What I meant is because I I’ve never heard about that interview or the talk with Heidi uh with Han Lee about the healing journey. So uh what do we know about? You can look in the website and there is always the last ones on the top. But uh I did also newsletters which lately I I don’t do anymore for about two years. I don’t do that anymore. I’m not so much interested anymore in promoting things and selling selling. There’s you have to spread yourwisdom, not just Yeah. Well, I try to spread it with you, but it’s everything on the website. There are hundreds of videos and YouTube channel. When you go to my YouTube channel, there’s everything. So, you’ll find that my YouTube channel, the Wisdom Factory YouTube channel and then you can search on that if you want a specific name or topic. Yeah. So, if you are on her YouTube channel, you’ll be able to to search. Yeah. And also on the website, a search function. So and normally I wrote uh uh articles now withAI. I I write a little bit but then I put also the transcript and the summaries uh which AI gives me so people can only watch that the the parts which they want to watch and you know but still there is some some videos which are watched quite a bit some only 30 40 people but I’m I’m fine with that. I mean, who wants to find me or us finds us, you know? So, I’m I’m ever more believing in the miracle ways of the universe. And so, well, that reminds me of somebody praying to God, uh, let me win in thelottery. Let me have the checkpot. at gold final says well you have to buy a ticket. So yeah yeah it depends different level of the same event and we have to be aware of that as well. I’m not interested in fame. I’m interested in deep conversation and if somebody wants to take profit or take ad not advantage how do you say that take um if it helps to somebody to watch it then I’m fine but it’s not my first uh intent to mi be missionary or something like that for other people so and I enjoy our conversations and the othergroups because this is co-creative things come up which for me if I should write a piece or something I would never think about all these things which you contribute you use the last few minutes to to be here with us because who knows when the next time you’ll be here. Um was that a question? No, it’s a question. It’s it’s an an invitation to share what you want to share about consciousness or whatever. Oh, I don’t know. It is true that unfortunately often I can’t join because um it’s right during my commute to work.So, I do miss everybody. It’s been lovely to pop in occasionally. Yeah. Um, I’m going to think about that and somebody else can talk in the meantime. I don’t know what to share. You can also start with a check out because we are almost arrived at the top of the hour. So, or was it your check out? No, I’ll check out. Um, thank you for all of the I’ve I actually I’ve been taking notes. Um, I have a whole long list now of tools um for mindfulness and for grounding and now I can refer to them if I rememberto. Um, no, this was really lovely and I it’s the you know the the the more I have these conversations, the more I think about it, the more I try practice things, the more I remember to do it and the easier it gets. Um, so it’s, you know, it’s you can take all of the classes in the world or think about all of these things, but if you don’t practice them, they don’t they’re not in your body and when you need them, they won’t be there. And it’s because it’s so easy to get when you’re heightened to forget everything youknow. So, um, that’s my reminder to myself and to everyone that if there’s a if there’s a practice that you know has worked for you, just keep practicing it. um so that it shows up when you need it. Um yeah, breath has been a big thing for me and paying attention to my nervous system, but also you know if there’s sharing with people in your life about what your practice is. I’ve I’ve also had, you know, Galen remind me of some things when I’m feeling heightened, you know, or or my coworker Jamie reminding me orum it’s nice to have community around it, too. If you’re with someone and that’s the moment that you’re feeling anxious or you know and the person says, “Have you remembered to breathe, have you had water lately? Are you thirsty?” Um, so, um, yeah, I’m happy. I mean, I just came back from a wonderful vacation, so of course I’m happy, but in general, I’m happy. So, that’s my report to everybody is that I’m happy. and um despite you know there’s all kinds of chaos in the world but trying to find joy andconnection and meaning in the ways that you know the people I’m interacting with and the things I’m doing with my life. So that’s my check out. Should I pass it to someone specific? Okay. Oh, you’re finally I felt that coming. Thank you, That was lovely. I don’t think I even need words after all of that. Um, I rather share what my body is feeling. There’s a lightness but also some excitement after what you just shared. Uh, like the synthesis of everything. It brings lightness and joy and yeah, lightness and joy. I’ll passto Eugina. And I felt that coming too. We’re so sympatico. Oh, it’s we’re what a riot. I love this group. Um, I would just say it’s really nice to stay away from like we’re very close but we just push all the problems of the world out so that we are reggrounding and having some more confidence in our ability to regulate. So just just talking about the things we can control the different ways we do that. I found that really helpful as I was getting a little anxious about going back to school. Butuh um just because I enjoy relaxing more than working that hard, but it’s okay. And I’m going to I’m going to try really hard to keep coming. It’s just that um yeah, you’re just reminding me to take a little a lot more care. So I appreciate how grounding this group was today. So thank you. And I will pass to you, Mona. Yeah, I felt that coming too. Uh I was just uh when Beatrice mentioned practice, it takes a lot of practice to uh regain your mindfulness in a situation of crisis because uh a friend of mine justsomebody tried to burglar their apartment and he was not there and but he got a phone call from his wife and he was when He came home, he he his laptop wasn’t there and he was sure he had put it in front of the entrance of his apartment and when he told us it can’t be he was up in is up in the fifth floor and nobody goes up there just to steal your So he went back to the garden where he had stayed and there was the laptop but he had completely because he was so upset about this uh burger And it was it must have been reallybecause he broke up a garden door. So it was really a difficult situation for his wife and she was obviously home alone anyway. So and he practices a lot but yeah so the next time there is a crisis I will try to be very much mindful. This is what I really intend to. That’s my check out, Heidi. Yeah, thank you. This is a good reminder, but I find it particularly difficult when you are in your emotions, in the stream of emotions to remember anything. So, uh yeah, we can make this in intention, but if it works, then wewill see next time. And I grateful that you showed up and that you were here and we had this lovely talk and we see you again in two weeks. Thank you. Take care everybody. Bye bye. Bye bye. Victoria Victoria know if she she is still there but goodbye to you too. Bye bye.