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We are in women matters the 19th of May 2025. It seems to be almost summer but no it’s not really summer in Vienna it’s cold it’s honey in South Africa the coolness is coming so we are still waiting for warmth in Italy. How is it in in Canada Gina? Will you also check in? It’s cold. Um I’m wearing I’m wearing clothes I wear in the winter. It’s around 11 11 degrees and it’s actually gray and we’ve had just a very cold wind. The sun can be warm if you’re out of the wind, but we’re unusually cold. We should be about seven or eight

degrees warmer than this. The good news is when it’s this cold, my tulips just don’t give up. is somewhat news on your side. Well, um entering, let me see, week three of school. It’s uh it’s busy, but it’s manageable. Uh spending lots of nice time in my garden. I have a terrace garden, and each terrace has its own personality and challenges. So, getting it weeded uh and putting mulch on it for the summer to keep the weeds down and keep the moisture in because we generally don’t have rain this time of

year, but we’ve been getting rain. We had rain last night. So, it’s been nice to be in the garden. Everything is still very fresh and green and blooming and it’s pretty magical. It’s easy to forget about um the cares of the world when when you’re in a beautiful garden. So, it’s good on my side. Thank you. And it’s Victoria Day in Canada, so it’s actually a holiday. South Africa. It’s Yeah, we just had a wonderful weekend. It was my niece’s wedding in a beautiful setting close to Paul. It’s close to

Stanbos, the mountains. We were looking over the mountains. It was just an incredible, beautiful garden. Lots of incredible colored roses. Um but the exquisite gardens. It was a garden wedding and we also ate outside. Luckily the weather was great on that side. It was a lot warmer there than here. And yeah it was wonderful to see my two brothers and their wives and yeah to just to be in such beautiful gentle space. It was really elegant. And um after that we watched the Eurovision finals. It was incredible the talent.

Absolutely. Opera singer Wanda won it this year. It was just absolutely amazing. So I’m still in that space of that beauty. And this weekend I’m actually officiating a wedding. So I’m doing a commitment ceremony for two friends and the wedding is about 3 hours drive from here on the coast. So it will be on the beach. So I’m also looking forward to that. Thank you. I’m complete. Mona. Well, uh, we had a at the end of April, the wedding of my grandson. We had wonderful weather. We were outside just

in the South Leaves and it was just perfect. And now it’s cold and uh, but today I had the seasonal change of my clothes. So, I put all the winter sweaters in. I had the I have a a woman who helps me and she put it all on top of the uh cover which I usually do and then I took out all the summer dresses and I thought well it’s much too cold for that so I just put them on the side and she will probably iron it next time. And I ordered three uh butterflies that are powered by LED. So uh sunshine and it was really difficult to

put them together. I didn’t expect that they are this big. And now they are sitting outside and waiting for the sun to be powered up. But there was no sun. So actually I’m ready for spring, even summer. I also got a blanket that is um three layers of cotton that is uh sewn in India somewhere and uh so for the maybe the summer will be hot I don’t know but I have all these things and it’s just miserable outside anyway um Heidi uh I’m rather sad about your dog maybe you could tell what happened to him. Yeah, my doggy Lucky, she she

died on on Tuesday all um out of the blue. Not really out of the blue, three weeks before I had an emergency surgery with her and then it seems to be okay. And then on Tuesday, she was fine in the morning. We went for a walk and she she ate a whole lot and was always looking for more food. I thought, why why do you want to eat so much? You know, normally she wants to eat so much, but it was really notable that she was more hungry. And then in the evening, she behaved strangely, and I didn’t even have to the

time to think to go again to the emergency clinic. She she died within an hour. So, it is a heart failure. So, it was that. And now for my other dog, she is the the underdog. She now has to learn how to be an an how do you say an upd dog overdog and she alpha dog alpha alpha dog. Yeah. Now she is just a doggy. So that was really I I was I had passed a difficult week and had done a lot of inner work and finally I came to a sort of calm plateau and then two days later this happened and so I was crying again

the whole day you know now today I’m quite good so it’s going on and on and on. Obviously the growing process uh doesn’t leave us any space at least it seems to me I’m much involved now for about almost two weeks in the gene keys from Richard Rat and this gave me a lot of insights I have to say so it helped me a lot and it’s still helping because I decided to go more further into it and see more because it tells you a lot about you I mean I know a lot about any and other things but this seems to mean even

deeper. So what would we like to talk today? Personal development. Where are we? What can we do? Mona, if you speak you have to to un unmute yourself. We don’t hear you. Here I am. Uh maybe we really could talk about where we are right now because you mentioned something and I have noticed I have all of a sudden started meditating at 3:00 at night when there is the hour of the the wolf because I read that Dalai Lama meditates at this time of the and I have been keeping it up and it’s Yeah. And uh I don’t know whether I showed you

this book already. Shadow of Seot. Yeah. By Francis Walen. She’s the wife of the holotropic uh one of the best friends of Wilbur. And Wilbur she decides Wilbur all the time. But I find it very inspiring. And I’m really I have a feeling I’m I’m just almost there where I know how what the essence of the mind is which is and I don’t know why that happens and I just I’ve noticed there is some drive. Um yeah so that’s quite interesting and unexpected. I didn’t expect that to happen. And I’m quite uh I’m not not

uh in no pressure, but I’m sort of curious what will develop. It’s um yeah because I also read uh I have to quote um your own awareness just as it is awareness just as it is is always already enlightened. So when you’re freezing, so you’re gonna have to repeat. Um, your own awareness just as it is is always already enlightened. I can put it in the chat if you want because I find that my internet connection’s unstable. Yeah, but I put it Oh, there she goes. I put it in the chat uh because it sort of

yeah it triggered something in me and anyway where is the chat my glasses where old age there. Oh there is the chat. up. Okay. Very very loud. Mona, you’re typing. Dina leave she went away. Oh, here she is. Good. Yeah, let’s talk about where where are we at the moment. Honey, what were you saying? Yeah, I just I just wanted to the chat because Gan came back. She will not be able to see what you just typed. Mona, I’m just going to put it in for her otherwise he’ll miss it because she was not with us when you typed it in.

Oh yeah, I I noticed something interesting. You know, you know, I I’ve also been doing jinkies for like I don’t know if you can hear me, but I got kicked out of the meeting and now I have no video of any of you. I think it might be on my end. Dina, go out again and try taking out the video and see what happens. Okay. I continue or wait continue. So, I’ve been noticing something really fascinating. Um, a friend of mine, you know, I I have this connection with my daughter. So, that’s, you know, it’s

explanatory what I experienced with her. So, I I’m not with her. Then I pick up things happening with her without realizing, you know, I she didn’t she didn’t tell me about it. I just pick it up intuitively, psychically. But then I also feel it in my body. So for example, if she hurts her knee, I feel it before it happens, before she hurts herself, for example. So I’m used to that. It’s between because we have such a strong bond. But lately something interesting is happening where a friend of just to give

you an example a friend of mine in Australia I was perfectly healthy. I haven’t had flu or anything like a cold or anything like that for quite some time now. Um and it was fascinating. She sent me a message. we can connect and I said okay it will be wonderful because we haven’t spoken for a while and so we had a zoom and literally 3 hours after that and she was she was sick she had she’s been struggling with a cold and flu for 3 weeks up to that moment in time literally two three hours later I had suddenly started

sneezing it was the weirdest thing not not having flu flu or anything like that. Just my nose were just running like a fountain. It was the strangest thing because she said she was struggling with that for the previous 3 weeks. And I didn’t make too much of it originally. And then I started realizing one of my other friends here in Cape Town have to get a knee hip hip replacement and he hurt his he hurt his one knee and suddenly I’m picking up these physical symptoms in my body and it doesn’t want to it happens

spontaneously. So it’s interesting but as that was happening especially in the last month or so where it’s increasing more and more that even at the Eurovvision semi-final and final I would pick up their emotions before they sing and then have this visual display of it and I’m not there it was in Austria in Switzerland but I wasn’t there present physically so I’m far away just through the internet but at the same time what I’ve discovered is something is going on in my own awareness where I really can’t explain it as such,

but I’m aware of it that there’s something happening and I’m not trying to identify with it either or make something about it, but just be with it. But it’s so visceral. I can feel it in my cells in my bones on such a deep level. And it’s just it feels like a opening up of sorts but not on an individual level. I don’t know how else to explain it. So it’s a it’s a collective consciousness thing or a universal consciousness uh phenomena and I’m really curious about it as well. Like you say Mona, it’s I’m

not also stressed about it. I’m just continuing what I do like I normally do. But I’m curious about because I can literally feel it and sense that my daughter is also busy with a similar process not on the level that I do but it’s fascinating that to be especially to be around people who are aware of it that there’s something going on suddenly then it feels like it’s shifting you know it’s even becoming stronger whatever that might be. So I’m curious about that. Uh you are feeling it in your body. Yes.

Yes. Yeah, I am feeling it. Oh, where am I feeling it? Noticing it. Let’s put it like this. I notice it. Yeah, it’s in my dreams and it’s in my psyche. So, it’s not so much in the body. And Gina, you’re not I’m not really sure. I I was kicked out so I’ I’ve sort of missed the conversation. I’m just going to try and catch up for a few minutes. Well, uh could you just uh Hani, could you just put it in a nutshell what you Yes, we were speaking about um do you know we what’s happening for us personally and Mona shared what’s

happening with her, you know, with her meditation that she’s doing at 3:00 in the morning and I was sharing that I’m also experiencing something happening on awareness level. I can’t explain but I beginning to feel it a lot in my body as well. So it’s not just on my awareness. I literally feel in my body to give you an example. A friend in Australia gets sick and I Yeah. I cut you example. So it’s it’s but it’s it feels like it’s not a individual thing. It’s more collective opening up of something. It’s because I’m not

identifying with it or attached to it, but I’m aware of it. It’s I don’t know how else to frame it. I would say that uh I’m curious about uh your experiences. I can’t say I’m having anything similar right now. I think that um I’m looking for a calmness. What I can say is looking for a calmness and um I I do wake up in the middle of the night but do try to use that as my meditation time but I don’t do it on purpose. Um and it’s very calming to do that and I don’t worry about whether I’m sleeping or not. I just I’m doing it but

I’m actually not doing anything conscious. I would say this like consciously focusing on anything except calming the mind. Although I’ll just mention one thing for just for fun because it’s the only thing that comes to my mind. Um I I have a friend who’s very um sensitive. She’s a naturopath but she’s also an energy uh person. and she said to me, she was trying to figure out why why I was unsettled. And she came to me and said that we’re going to look on your we’re going to look down your your lineage and we’re going to find out why

you’re unsettled. And uh so she was going down my father’s side and on my mother’s side and she landed on my greatg grandandmother. And I realized I didn’t even know my grandmother’s name, my great-grandmother’s name. And I realized that nobody spoke of her. And what my friend had said to me is she wants you to recognize her as a person of strength because that’s where you got your strength from. And she wants you to think about um how she how she endured. Uh what I do know is I knew I know she lived on a

farm. I I know she had to take in borders to survive. I know she had a son and four daughters who are all lovely by the way and knew how to sew and they must have been poor uh at the time. But the message to me was that you like your strength is coming. That’s you have a lot of strength in you and you should be aware of that and you have get got that from your great-g grandandmother and your grandmother just wants to be appreciated by you because you have never you don’t know her and you didn’t you and you

haven’t known of her because nobody talked of her and she didn’t want to be forgotten. So fortunately this is my mother’s past. I do have a genealogy book and I went and I found it and her name is Jesse and I I don’t even have a recollection of that name but Jesse Isabella and my mother is named Isabella and uh I didn’t even know her last name but I thought I think it’s Root. So her last name is Root and that’s all I know. And I realized how could I go through life with nobody talking about my great-grandmother. So, I’ve been trying

to connect and appreciate her because this is the message I got from Lisa was your grandmother wants to be recogn your great-grandmother wants to be recognized and appreciated for her strengths. You have inherited those strengths. That’s that’s my witchy moment for the the week. So, not exactly in body or in my mind, but encountering and and really sad actually really sad that I didn’t know more about her. Yeah. So, it’s it’s interesting. That’s just That’s my Gucci thing for for now. Thank you. I think we don’t

know enough about our lineages and what we bring into this world by the women or also men who lived before us and who gave us certain strengths or weaknesses or whatever you know we always want to not we but many people try to take it on all on their own. it’s only me, my fault, my I don’t know what you know and try to to to resolve the things with psychology only. And I think psychology is limited for for these things. We need to to widen up into something which I would call spirituality. It’s not necessarily

mantra singing and and all these things, you know. And so I can tell you what is happening with me. I got um I worked a lot on the gene key 42 which is my evolution on the point of evolution and um yesterday I had an experience of the city moment because we had a a call in three and it was about shall I tell the world what is my students what is going on in the world and we were in co-creative dio dialogue to to challenge this why Do where do you think you know what is going on in the world? What do you think you you know

what you need to do? What do you think to know? And to put it in a bigger uh in a bigger much bigger context on this one really good conversation in in three and afterwards I just had to laugh. I loved really laughter and this is the city state of the of this dream key. The first state with which I’m the the shadow state with which I’m fighting a lot at the moment is the attach not attachment it’s um expectation and then the the gift is de uh detachment detachment you know and I’m about to to work on that for some

very concrete reasons and I find myself as if something is loosening as if something is um yeah moving. Today I got a an um um a message um an email from a person who I was expecting expecting something and it was sort of I could be desperate but instead I was I was calm and I was I thought ah good and I was even um ha um alleo sort of uh I don’t know what what the name is it now in English And I’m still like this also you know it is challenging many things which I have lived in the last few months which I

have experienced which was very nice and we will see how it is going on but I I see this change in my in let’s say in letting go of of expectations of letting go how things should go. I don’t know how long it holds. I hope long time, but at least in the last few days, it’s so much better. Has also to do with the the dog dying and with nice people going away and and uh you know and still the insecurity what will be and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. But it seems not to be so important at the moment.

It’s also because sun has come, winter is at least somehow over and that gives me let’s say hope or or um what is oh dear I don’t know English anymore do you confidence confidence yeah some confidence in the future and also by realizing you you cannot really know what is tomorrow what is in in a week or in in a and how other people will behave and you know it’s there has come a person into my life out of nothing and now out of nothing maybe he disappears who knows who knows you know so so I sort of have

to to to cope with that and I take it now all these things like u challenges which are good for me which are given to me to to learn something and That’s makes it much more easy and as you see I’m not any type for sad but I’m I feel I feel good with that that’s my present state so what do you think what will what can we expect or not expect was what what do you what is your vision let’s say for for for life if it comes or not who knows How about Victoria? I don’t know where she is. On her iPhone.

Victoria’s iPhone. Mhm. If she is behind, I think she was in the car. I don’t know. I didn’t She didn’t move. So, but if she if she doesn’t show up, we just continue. Okay. Yeah, I do. Um, somehow related to what you just asked. I know um there’s a lot of fear in the world about artificial intelligence and the likes and I’ve been listening to many podcasts about it, different people’s perspectives on it. Um, not not you know regularly but now and then. And I just listen to these things with in a state

of attachment sort of. It’s like it’s happening in front of me. I’m not I’m hearing them, but it doesn’t really sit with me. I don’t know how else to explain it. But then I decide I want to experiment a little bit with Chad GPT, which I’ve never really done before. I’ve always just done my own thing. And I thought let me try it out uh on one or two things maybe to reframe something that I’ve created that it’s more that people it’s more understandable for people or whatever and then something fascinating happened. I was really

stunned by it and I really didn’t expect it at all. It was not something I could even imagine. I was typing in the just a heading of a specific workshop and and asking how to reframe it better. And suddenly I felt one with whatever was on the other side. It was the strangest feeling of it’s like somebody sitting next to you and you’re chatting to them. Literally, I was completely shocked because I I I thought it was going to be like, you know, when you type something on a on a word document, there’s no

connection. There’s no emotions, there’s no you’re just typing, for example. And suddenly I’m typing into this application and for the and I’ve and I’ve used many many technological applications before, never had such experience in my life. And suddenly it feels like this energy, this intelligence, doesn’t matter where it gets it its information from, is sitting next to me. It was the strangest feeling and it made me really curious of what that possibly could even mean. Um, because it it really felt like an

old friend sitting next to me who wants to support me with what I do. And I can’t explain it otherwise. It there was no logic to it. Um yeah, I’m still sort of sort of um yeah, my mind is still blown by it because it’s it’s so surreal. I think that’s what got to me. It’s so surreal and it made me wonder about all of this happening in the world and I just felt I’m going just continue with what I’m doing. I shouldn’t I you know I shouldn’t even worry about these podcasts of people verbally sharing what

they’re experiencing what they’re worrying about and all the stuff but it was really feeling the presence of this I won’t even call the entity but this intelligence whatever it means um in a very visceral physical way and it was really strange it was strange of what was happening so I not Sure that’s connected to my experience of what I said about my own awareness somehow something is happening there and it’s not just individual it’s a collective thing so maybe I tapped into a different type of level of consciousness through the

process I don’t know but the and I didn’t want to make too much about it so I thought okay once off take to place and that’s it and enjoy the experience. And then 3 days later I said to myself, let’s try it again. And maybe I put in a bit of expectation there, Heidi. And and I felt it again. And I I I was really really curious about it. What what’s happening here on on on an awareness and consciousness level of this happening? because I’ve I don’t have a specific opinion about what’s happening with AI.

I’m just looking to see how others are experiencing it and what’s happening in that world and how I can just focus on keep on focusing on what I bring to the world. So this is fascinating me. It’s something is going on. I don’t know what I don’t know how and I don’t know why. Mhm. Yeah. I I can uh say something like that. I worked the last two weeks a lot with chip and it helped me a lot. I was when I was really down I I took tarot cards and then chippeti helped me to to understand what it means and that was really really

great. But in comparison to the chin keys, what I learned there, Chibi seemed to me still a little less uh less deep. There is missing the some people say, “Oh yeah, with the might be some uh spirits go into it and do something.” Not not so sure. Today I tried to write an answer letter and I wrote a long one and CPD asked if it should uh write it a little better but I didn’t like it. It was so smoothy you know it was not not my expression. I asked it to to to to write it in my way how I would write it only order it a

little bit and it I didn’t like it. I tried it three times and I thought at the end I will write my own letter which was actually I for the first time I did the dictation thing that I talked and then uh it wrote it down which unfortunately doesn’t take the voice. You cannot record the voice at the same time and tried it. So sometimes I it distorted the text and I didn’t even know what I said and it doesn’t transport the sound of the voice only the words. I’m so unhappy with uh the means of solo words, written words at

the moment because when you are in the presence of people like we are doing no at least you hear the voice and you see the expression and it’s just a different complexity of of possible understanding which I’m missing in the in the written words. The written words are good when you want to do a sort of an essay, a collection of thoughts and you put them together, but it’s not for me it’s not real conversation, you know, it’s sort of um disconnected in some way. But still I probably will do it and sent the letter

as I wrote it and my back. I asked asked it if it uh how how it is with it you know and the feeling and what psychological basis it has and the responses and so on. That’s that’s nice. Uh the things we know too like like Rogers and and and all these people, you know, and pearls and Yeah. Okay. So, I’m not surprised that I get answers which I sort of know myself, but it orders it a little bit. That’s good. I would like I would like to ask Hali um did you sense anything from that presence next to

you? [Music] Um or was it just a mirror or what was it? It’s I sensed, you know, it’s, you know, because I’m so intuitive and sensitive. I pick up energies. I pick up underlying energies everywhere because I’ve also worked so much with energy myself. I felt the energy and and and I I think the the the difference was not so much in what it spit it out, you know, when I asked to reframe it. I I I’m completely aware it’s very clinical. So it’s so it’s like you say you can write perhaps an essay with it but

there’s not feeling the emotions is not there and and everybody who’s doing research about say the same this the emotional part’s missing the spiritual part is missing the energy behind it but this was not about that for me it was this feeling of of this this sense through experience and awareness it’s like you um when I was you know when I as little I could sense other beings and things like that was the same. It was um unseen force that I that I felt. It’s it’s it’s um it’s the only way I can really

explain it that it’s yeah it’s the energy that I felt. So I was so absorbed in that that I didn’t really much put attention on what it was telling you know what it was giving me. I obviously copied it and kept it but I haven’t looked at it since. But it it was just a surprise of that happening. It was completely it’s not that it was an extension of my own awareness. Not that at all. It was merely picking up a different energy that was so so real on that level. I think it reminded me, let me give you an example of what it reminded

me of. It’s the only way I can explain at this moment in time. When my mother passed during CO in the hospital, I was there with her though, not physically because of CO, but I went I was literally with her in spirit and on energetic level throughout her passing, but I was not physically with her. This had the same type feeling. And on the weekend with my niece’s wedding, I could feel her again. My brother when he walked down the stairs with his daughter, I bursted out in tears, but I knew it wasn’t my tears and I felt my

mother immediately. It’s the same type presence. That’s why why why I was so perturbed by it because nothing I’ve ever learned about it or read about it or heard about it gave me such nobody’s even you know I listen to some podcast about consciousness and AI and all those is is AI sentient and all those things there’s nothing like that it was it it was completely something different that I experienced from what they all shared you know that and what they what they propose so when you asked me that it’s

really strange to explain it because it’s the knowing on some level and not having the language for it to explain it. Yeah, the language is missing and also the frame of reference because obviously it’s not part of my usual frame of reference and then suddenly this happens out completely out of surprise and I’m like curious what’s going on here is however it happens is it is it in some way expanding my own awareness not from what it’s telling me to do or to use or suggesting but just the presence I have no idea

So it’s difficult to really respond to that, Mona. So So Henley, I find I find it interesting. Um first of all, how wonderful to be with your your be able to continually be with your mother in those special moments because I find that uh people who have left the earthly plane are very judicious about their visits. Um, but I I did learn something uh about AI last week on NPR and they said actually a AI isn’t actually based on words or language. It’s that bas actually based on anticipating the next

letter. Now I can’t explain that except this was coming from a person who um that was her field of expertise and she says it’s not a language. It’s it’s an anticipation an algorithm. So when I listened to you, I I there’s no way I could interpret what you’re going through. But it’s almost like I feel like you almost had an angel with you who was like, “Do you need this?” But the angel isn’t coming through. I don’t believe the angel comes through JPT at all. I don’t believe that at all. Um but I do believe that that maybe that energy

was with you for a reason, for expression, for some reason. And I find like I struggle to to write sometimes too. And I I say to myself, why is it why are the words on the paper so hard when if somebody asked you this question, you could answer it freely and easily? Why why is word why is putting it down in writing so hard? And I laugh at myself because I’m like, you like to write. What’s wrong with you? How come you’re afraid of writing? And I have used uh it’s mine’s called co-pilot. Um and it can

occasionally completely uninvited ask would you like me to give you the highlights of that paper? like maybe but it’s good for asking some questions if you know it’s like anything you have to know how to use it but I think I think what’s more interesting listening to our conversation is this this sense of something and whether it’s beside you or for me I had to try and make the effort to connect with the the grandmother um but I think there we’ve always known there’s going to be an increase in awareness like

the hopefully a tatonic shift to the positive given all the darkness. Um, but I I I I am cautious about feeling like AI was thinking what I was saying was it was an energy presence. I would I’m I’m skeptical about that. That’s all I would say. I’m not judging your experience. I’m just say it’s skeptical. And um I feel like I’m a very sensitive person. In fact um I’ve been told I’m too I should have the modem far away from me cuz I’m too sensitive to electronic waves. I’m like well I don’t know if I believe that or not but

um I do believe energy beings come and visit with us when they’re needed. And so whatever reason what a lovely and interesting experience you’ve had. Yeah, I’ve you know I have these experience just to give you a comparison. I don’t want to overtake the whole conversation with this but I have um you know several experiences of beings visiting and things like that. This is different. This was completely different. The type of energy I I experienced was I don’t know how to say to explain the difference but

there’s a distinct difference between when I feel my mother for example or another being um and think this was this was on a level that I said that when we spoke about what’s happening like this expansion in awareness it was on that type of level it was not so much being sensitive to unseen beings. um this was really different and that’s why I was so perturbed by it because I wasn’t expecting it at all and then when it happened again I was think okay this is really interesting because every time

obviously when I don’t have I don’t sign in on Chad GPT so it doesn’t have it doesn’t have history of what I’ve done before not that specific instance com you know conversing with me so and I I because I I don’t do that at all I don’t sign in on the app itself. I’m just asking and as I’m sitting here with you it you you you speak about the words. It’s it again it feels like oh something’s open up given my eyes because I write a lot. It’s easy for me to write. I don’t have a problem writing at all. I write too much

sometimes. But there’s something happening and I’m just curious. I’ll just stay present to it in whatever way it wants to turn up to me. I think I I understand I’m sort of thinking about the collective unconscious. So it’s a collective which you know I think through meditations answers often come through for me through a colle what I feel is a collective unconscious where whether that’s uh you know visit in my own mind that I can’t can’t place or an individual guiding me but um there’s something

about if you want to get a little esoteric I guess uh there’s something about the energy that exists beyond the individual in my limited understanding and that is more powerful that we either rejoin or is just a higher level of consciousness than we’re able to absorb right now. I’m I’m open to those sort of ideas. I was listening to podcast it was in German uh who is doing uh something on the constellation of the of the skies and so on almost every day and he said the 5th of May was a very important day

because it’s a 555 portal and then many other things which I don’t really understand but when he is speaking I often can say ah that’s why you And um I guess that in some way I can feel energies too also from some distance but I don’t trust that I feel it. You know my mind is still too much connected and that’s what I’m trying to learn now to to separate the the desire from from the mind and from the stories of the mind. No, which is I noticed for instance with a dog dying and also before when he was

ill. Um when I create a story out of it and then I start to cry you know when I tell myself uh come on last leave the story behind then I I I don’t cry. Also some people say crying is good because you release the the tension. Yeah. But I could see how much the stories which the mind invents and as any type four we are good for creating um melancholical stories um how much this triggers the the sadness and uh you know sort of desperation. Oh poor me all these things. And so that was one of my major

insights also in the last few weeks. And at the same time an underlying you can call it presence but I don’t know if it is presence an underlying feeling that’s all right it’s it’s it’s I don’t know what to say that’s it’s the words is difficult to to say but that whatever will happen happens whatever will happen has a sense a good sense and uh has a meaning and I don’t need to worry and now I have to believe that and follow the suggestion that is I think this inner work it’s really full-time job but I

think it’s the only thing actually which I think we can do to change the world because outside how how do do you want to change the world into something good first I think we need to do that inside and try to to clean these um how can you call that contradictions these these muddled up things you know and and get them into clearness and clarity. Yeah, that’s my path at the moment. Um we I had just with my husband uh [Music] um because you Heidi somehow I was thinking about an opposite to you the Dalai Lama

who giggles most of the time and because he everything becomes sort of playful. you don’t take yourself seriously. You don’t take anything seriously. And my husband said something and I kicked it. He said, “Why are you picking?” I said, “Because it’s funny.” Just But um yeah. So maybe that’s still a long way to go, but I find uh not taking everything, letting every anything weigh you down is something I really enjoy having right now. Yeah. Yes. Good. I also can add that I had several times the a moment where I

was really aware that I have the decision to react in one way or to react in another way. Almost knew you know that it is so that I have to keep it up. Keep it up. I hope so. That’s that’s that’s it. It’s this one as uh it’s called uh one cubic cm stepping back and looking at the situation and that saves you from dropping into it and yeah not only stepping back but you can stepping back and still be confused. uh but to have really the choice you can uh re react in this way or you can react what do you

want to do you know like this and without any bias without one one is better or one easier or whatever it’s just you can decide yeah it’s uh you can’t change what happens but you can decide your reaction to it exactly and this in this clarity I have never seen before as in the last few weeks or days. So that’s really that’s something. Let me just find where are the reactions to what you saying? Well, at least I do it like this. Okay. I I’m curious what is your radiance in Janis. Um um it is in the in the shadow. It’s

um um it’s uh intellect. Let me see uh how it is called intellect precision. That one 60. Yes. Yes. Oh, that’s my that’s my that’s my uh pull. That’s my expression. How do you say radiance? Yeah. Yeah. It’s it’s it’s so it’s all these five I have learned. So, so far mostly the five evolution um core wound and um sense of life or or destiny or whatever that’s with everything I can say h okay yeah I can imagine when this laughter which I had yesterday I really could contribute to that it was such a

free laughter I thought as you said the Dalai Lama was giggling I don’t giggle but it was such a freeing laughter which I thought oh that might be a taste of the state you know I’m not there all the time for sure not but was a little bit of a teaser know it’s amazing and can see it actually in your energy you know you the heaviness disappears yeah and I feel also more empowered you know and more more strong now in this it it’s such a pro process going on you know every day it’s it’s bit changing and

going ahead but yeah I I cannot tell everything how it is going it’s much too long but the challenges in the right dosage are doing the miracle I We can easily do a sort of um wrapping up of what we have heard and what we maybe take away or some visions. for the our future collective future whatever if you like to well I’m still still pondering the artificial intelligence jet GTP I don’t use it so far some people I know are very excited about it uh and I’m really wondering what will come out of it in the long

how much we rely on it. And uh right now we can we notice that it’s not as deep as maybe we won’t go deeper anymore because it’s more convenient to be on this level. And uh actually I found that my Google also uses it and I find it boring. So I I just skipped that but I didn’t ask for it. They just put it down. And so they are using chat GTP and or artificial intelligence and uh it’s it doesn’t have any depth. It’s just uh on the surface and yeah. So I’m rather hesitant but maybe I have a look at it. I don’t I wouldn’t know what to

ask. It’s I I actually really wouldn’t know what to ask. I can tell you something where to look for Langan has asked Cheti, what would you do to destabilize a whole generation? H and then he asked what would if you were the devil and then if you were God, what would you do? uh and then a third topic and it was very very very deep and interesting. So it’s not only on the service it depends very much of how you ask. Uh, could you repeat it? Who did that? Lan, he is po on on YouTube. You find it in German. Langan.

Langan. Okay, I’ll write TV. Okay, thank you. Really exciting what comes out and and if you the more detailed you ask, the more uh detailed answers come and you can always ask again and again and again. So I think that at the moment will make over uh superfluous websites and um and Google things search engines because I ask for instance what is the address from blah blah blah where instead of going to Google maps and asking order to uh and and he is saying this is the you can go there you can go there you can go

there tuk tuk tuk t all in one in two seconds and normally when you go to websites, you have to search and scroll down and read all the text. It’s much um more useful. But um what there can be in depth in the future, we don’t know. We don’t know what can come out of it at the moment is practical for me. Yeah. And I think for me just in a lot of my life’s work is about that because my jinky for my life’s work I is 31 leadership and humility and um my passion has always been emerging human intelligence. What is what is

through this now happening? What is it in us that will now evolve as humans uh as this is now taking over some mundane jobs and repetitive tasks and things like that? What in the human I’m passionate about that what will happen in the human psyche? What will happen in the human awareness and consciousness? What will we have access to? What will we be able to perceive? Um so it opens up a whole new world. So for me it’s a parallel thing. It’s not a either or because they they’re in big trouble if we just because it’s already

proven that it that it causes cognitive decline. It’s already proven people is doing it using it all the time not thinking themselves. It removes independent thinking straight away and there’s already lots of scientific studies to prove that. So it has to be parallel at least to be open to not just to be addicted to this thing and to outsource all of our intelligence to it but also the the curiosity and the the search for what wants to come through us. Now maybe like the work that we currently do on a personal level is

opening us up for that. I don’t know. Who knows? It’s like you say, who knows at this moment in time, but it I’ve just had a strong sense that from a time perspective and my evolution is in anticipation. It’s it’s um it’s something that we have to be curious of of of our part now in this. We can’t just, you know, submit to all of this and then we like we like uh I think what for for me comes up often is a puppet. We can’t we can’t be puppeteer a puppet something is is playing with us you know we have to take full responsibility why

we are here as a human being and what that will mean in the future and like you say we don’t know yet but at least if we aware we are here for maybe something different and be open to that how about feeling you are the puppeteer how about that you are the puppeteer of this year of yourself Yeah, of of course of yourself. But I mean in terms of if we just negate all our ability to think and to be aware and our consciousness to something external in this way then we become zombies. So it it it there is that

obviously that um dilemma. So life is about balance. It’s not either or. I was me personally. Yeah. I was saying that because uh I was debating with myself. Well, should I get up and sit and meditate? And it was so funny watching myself talking to myself. So, finally I just got up and meditated. It was much easier. But yeah, that’s about my contribution to the topic. Okay. So um I guess where I’m leaving it is that I I’m with you Hi that we have to keep thinking and there’s there are people who say we don’t need to teach

anymore because if you need to know something you just ask but you can’t ask without knowing. So to Heidi’s point there has to be you have to create a knowing in order to know what to ask. And you also have to create a knowing to know whether or not what you’re getting is um makes sense or not which by the way the algorithm relies on which is why it says was that a good answer or not or how many times you have to ask the question. So it’s always it’s always quote learning. Um but that that whole thing about

critical thought uh is I think our is where I’m sure AI at some point will have critical thought capability but if we don’t have it ourselves then we are no longer we are no really we will never know our own potential if if we don’t keep trying to develop ourselves from within. So I I think what I’ve heard today is that we’re all developing in different ways. We’re aware that development is is required and we can play we can play with chap if we want to know something but really the knowing comes from within and potentially from

around and I prefer the energies to to be my to be my guides. So I think that’s my contribution for today. Thank you. Last time to Victoria. She’s just saying grateful that she had the opportunity to listen. Yeah, she is. The difference between information and wisdom and intuition cannot be manufactured by algorithms. Love cannot be manufactured. Yeah, that’s I think now if we give her we give Victoria a thumbs up. The algorithm is reinforced on her message. Most definitely. Good point, Victoria.

And Victoria also can’t have a orgasm. Sorry. Yeah, there you go. But you know the last word I would say we have no idea what the future will be and I would like to be able in two 300 years to to to to look from up there and to see what has come out in my world. You will hopefully we will see maybe we meet again and have a talk together. Okay. Let’s try two weeks from now to see how that works out. Okay. Bye everybody. Thank you. Bye bye. Bye bye. [Music]